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July 20th, 2010

I was reading an article in the MWDN about a proposed classy strip joint at the former Tin Alley Grill location.
I’m usually all for small business and it would be great to not have that building vacant but I feel like this isn’t going to do Framingham any favors since we have a little bit of a PR problem as it is.   But who knows, maybe it would be the most rootinist, tootinist strip club around! I feel  like it won’t get approved though and that would be fine with me.

For more information you can read the MWDN article here.


  1. I want the town to explain why this entire section of town has been allowed to languish and become decrepit while the Shopper’s World section has been flooded with money over the last several years. I realize the Ground Round has been gone from there for years now and Tin Alley won’t be back, but with Timothy’s Too ready to collapse across the street and the SAAB dealer sitting there vacant, who’s gonna wanna move anything there? This whole section of town has HUGE potential to be something special … but if they slap a strip club down right next door to Hess, who’s to say Hess won’t evacuate as well? And then what? Come on, Framingham, let’s get it together and return the ENTIRE town to glory.

    Comment by Charles Copeland July 20, 2010 @ 6:09 pm

  2. What is the big deal about a strip club??

    Comment by Chris July 20, 2010 @ 11:19 pm

  3. They did a background check on the potential owners of the proposed club and they have criminal records, so the club will NOT be happening. The owners of Angry Ham’s Garage are having the same problem- their permits were denied because of background checks on 2 of the 3 owners.

    Comment by Bren July 21, 2010 @ 3:10 am

  4. Michelle,

    According to today’s MWDN, the plan to put the strip club at the Tin Alley Grille site is now dead, but Groton plumbe Joe Ferguson now plans to located it in another Framingham location. See:

    No matter how “rootin’ and tootin’ “ the place would be, it would be bad for Framingham. No strip club is TRULY “classy”. They’re explotive of women and indecent. Sadly, there are a number of cities and towns around New England who are willing to allow strip clubs within their borders, and who in fact have them now. Sadly, there are women willing to work there and (mostly) guys willing to go and pay for the “entertainment”. But that doesn’t mean Framingham should be one of those communities.

    There’s also a letter to the editor in today’s MWDN which (while too harsh on columnist Julia Spitz) makes some good points.

    There’s got to be a better use for the old T.A.G. building and for closed up facilities in that part of town!

    Comment by Rev. Bob Baril July 21, 2010 @ 9:03 am

  5. I know that area pretty well and have never heard of Timothy’s Too…what is it? Isn’t Acapulco’s technically “across the street” (other side of Rt 9). Also I don’t really see what the big deal is about a strip club. Sounds like he is trying to get the Sheraton/Genzyme crowd…not the downtown area crowd. A dress code i.e. no hats, jeans, sweatpants would likely do the trick. Its not supposed to be a family place so that argument doesn’t stick. Go to one of the 50 chain/family restaurants 2 miles down the road if that’s what you are into. That said, I highly doubt it will be approved.

    Comment by Mike M July 21, 2010 @ 4:28 pm

  6. I like the comments on this topic. Like Angry Ham’s, this is an attempt to open a new business in Framingham, albeit in an industrial part of town and not quite the perfect model of what Framingham would like. Both businesses are a stretch for Framingham, however it is all about whether a business serves the public and contributes to the economy. Hate to say it folks, but both businesses will do that or they will be gone. I am all for both of these investors giving it a shot. You can vote with your attendence, but let’s not cast that first stone, OK?

    Comment by MAC July 21, 2010 @ 6:21 pm

  7. Framingham has enough problems with its PR and image to well afford something like a strip joint, regardless of where in town you put it. (Remember the hubbub over the head-shop on Main St.!) And let’s face it, no matter how you dress it up (or undress it!) these places ultimately invite and spawn sleaze. Legit. businesses (including the current property owner) understand what reputation means to the future of business. So do the current town leadership and most of the residents, thank goodness.
    I say give it another six months and someone will be looking to open an eatery or something a little less prurient and just as tax-worthy in that locale.

    Comment by Matt July 21, 2010 @ 10:01 pm

  8. I still dont get it., what is so “wrong” about a strip club?

    Comment by Chris July 21, 2010 @ 11:25 pm

  9. Chris,
    I don’t see strip clubs as a moral issue. I’ve been to a couple for bachelor parties over the years. (How many guys do you know who have never set foot in one?) Ask most of the “dancers” of these establishments who the exploited are and they’ll point to the drunk customers (mostly male) drooling to give away their money for a peek. On the other hand, I don’t think this “profession” does much for women in the grand scheme of sexual power politics. (Would you be okay if your daughter chose to strip for a living? Why?)
    As a resident of Framingham for near on two decades, my objection to a strip club within the borders of this town is much more practical: Framingham has its share of historical and emergent social ills which, unfortunately gives a pocked public face to a town that actually offers a lot of positive qualties of life. You don’t see those highlighted so much in the media and I think the town gets a bad (and unfair) rap because of the media’s mantra that “if it bleeds it leads”. A strip club just as you enter town from the tony environs of Southborough is not the contrast of cultures we need highlighted once again. And I do think that strip clubs set the stage for subcultures of quasi-prostitution and other sleazy side enterprises; not something Framingham should inadvertently endorse.

    Comment by Matt July 22, 2010 @ 1:25 am

  10. i wouldnt want to to prevent a strip club because of concerns about how it affects the image of framingham. i’d rather have the tax revenue from the business. seriously, who cares how people view framingham? the perception of framingham doesnt pay cops and teachers salaries, TAX revenue does.

    Comment by Joe July 24, 2010 @ 11:20 am

  11. when towns and cities start picking and choosing businesses they want because of image concerns i believe it is a recipe for disaster. the “flavor” of a town is something that comes about organically, you cannot manufacture the “image” of a town from town hall. the job of town government is simply to facilitate the effective allocation of tax revenues to support quality services. town gov’t should be pro business regardless of what the business is, especially with today’s challenging economic environment.

    Comment by Joe July 24, 2010 @ 11:26 am

  12. I’ve no moral objections to a strip club in the Ham either, but I do wish there were more creative ideas out there. Just one thought, how about indoor miniature golf and candlepin bowling? Or an adventure club for kids with all manner of fun jungle gyms? Just off the top of my head, but I’d love to see something a little bit different once in a while.

    Comment by Chris July 26, 2010 @ 12:29 am

  13. @Joe: The perception of a town may not directly pay teachers and police officers, but it affects who moves there and what businesses follow them, and that eventually affects the town’s bottom line. No matter how “classy” the strip club, it’s going to be perceived as sleazy, and so will the town. I grew up in Framingham, and my parents lived there for more than 50 years. It was a great place to live, and I’m sorry to see its reputation so downgraded. A “gentleman’s club” won’t help.

    Comment by CatherineR July 28, 2010 @ 10:20 am

  14. @ CatherineR

    i guess my point is any business is better than an empty storefront. empty storefronts bring other problems that will bring down the reputation of a town. thats why i’m saying towns should be business friendly. to me, the bottom line is towns and town gov’ts need to resist the urge to be nostalgic… every place will change through the generations. towns must embrace those changes to keep jobs and tax revenue flowing. the alternative is far worse… today’s economy is simply not strong enough for towns to attempt to pick and choose the businesses that belong in the town

    Comment by Joe July 28, 2010 @ 5:09 pm

  15. But having hundreds of people running and screaming in the roadway causing a 1 hour traffic backup after a soccer game helps the town image…. right??

    Comment by Chris July 28, 2010 @ 9:06 pm

  16. Joe is a jerk and a rotton person> i wish him 0 luck and hope his plumbing business dies too!

    Comment by scott August 18, 2011 @ 2:32 pm

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